>> i do expect the defense would say -- it's called a defense of diminished capacity, yeah, he did this, but wasn't of clear mind when he did it, led along by somebody else, somebody else was actually controlling his will, not in a zombie-like way, but because of his relationship to his brother. will it work? depends on the jury. if it does work, it would save him from execution. he could still be convicted of some lesser offense than use of a weapon of mass destruction to kill people, but he'd go to jail for the rest of his life rather than be executed. >> mike: i can only imagine the outrage in this country if this guy were to get anything less than a death sentence for what he did. does it matter in the hours following this vicious attack he went to work out at the fitness center, he went -- slept in his dorm, he tweeted and connected with social media. does that not kind of indicate this guy is really cold-blooded? >> you know, it cuts both ways, governor. sometimes the absence of remorse shows you didn't do anything wrong. other times the absence of remorse shows you're a cold-bloo